Thank-you Barbara. Myself being from Québec most people I've discussed this recent event with are shocked and outraged ! Thanks again for this post and the McLean link great job as usual ! Hugh
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Canada - Macleans article, Oct. 28, 2016: A Jehovah’s Witness and her deadly devotion
by AndersonsInfo inhttp://www.macleans.ca/news/a-jehovahs-witness-and-her-deadly-devotion/.
a jehovah’s witness and her deadly devotion.
did a jehovah’s witness die after refusing a blood transfusion, and should the state have let it happen?.
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I got a voicemail from an elder about meeting with me.
by schnell inyesterday, i missed a call and got a long voicemail from an elder who would like to meet with my wife and i some time this weekend, with another elder who dealt with my brother.
i haven't responded.
it's meeting night tonight, and my wife has already talked about staying home to do yoga with me instead.. yeah.
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After a couple inactive years of claiming depression ( which was true ) I simply sent in a DA letter to off my back and make a clean break in my mind. Works wonders, they flee from me like cockroaches in bright kitchen light ! One former friend elder agreed that Bethel was unfair and harsh, beard policy stupid, anti-education stance is dumb and the constant drumming of 'pioneer' service annoying. But he just stays in and cries 'LOYALTY' like those parroting drones on JW TV. During that last phone conv. I had with his I just said that WTBTS does NOT have the monopoly on the Bible, that it's a free world and I decide as I please and to please realize that he legally cannot do a thing about it. I'm 52 years old for crying out loud and he was speaking to me like a child. I think the fact I 'studied' with him made my quitting harder on him. That and he also tried the old guilt trip of 'who taught you the Bible ?' approach. I agreed to it as I knew nothing about scripture beforehand. What I forgot to mention was I paid dearly for it in contributions, time, wearing myself out, medical cost when I had my breakdown etc.
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Steve Hassan. Can some one verify if this is true.
by joe134cd inhttps://culteducation.com/group/1289-general-information/8227-disclaimer-regarding-steve-hassan.html.
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Just by the book and read it, well worth while.
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Elaine from the bunker video
by jookbeard indoes anyone know anything about the luscious elaine?
is she a professional actress or just a member of the r&f recruited to be a member of the cast of this video?
the pout,olive skin stunning looks make my heart miss a beat every time i see this beauty.
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Society is pimping 'The Truth' again to attract single men. I've seen it many times. How about the Pascal Petit portrait scandal ? Many others as well, always using beautiful people to draw 'members' in hehe
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Hello
by UnshackleTheChains ini decided to join this forum as have been lurking awhile.
there are lots of interesting topics on here that appeal to me.. i have been a witness for almost 3 decades and am very disillusioned with the organisation at this time.
i am beginning to see it in a new light as i am getting older.
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If I may, please read Steven Hassan's Combating Cult Mind Control, then go on to 30 Years a Watchtower Slave. You'll understand everything very clearly after that. Up to you to decide if you want to read Ray Franz's book after, which I'm sure you will. My allegiance is to the Father and his Christ not to any religion nor organization. I DA'ed and told them all to pound sand. And when they play the guilt trip on you someday if you do same where as they ask you who taught you the Bible, who taught you about Jehovah ? Answer you did from the written word and that you paid dearly for it in the way of contributions, time and energy. There are other groups that teach similar such as SDA, Unitarians, Messianic Jews etc. plus many other new online groups that the society has now become redundant and caught in the past. People are smarter now and are able to own their research unlike the seventies where religions had monopoly. GB1 would be having a heart attack today if they could see the level of openness out there now. Their selfish control is OVER !! No one group has truth. Look up Dr. Michael Brown or One for Israel as a starting point and progress on your own, good luck !! I don't give the org another 10 years before they are cut in half of what they are now maybe less. They might even loose their tax exempt status in some countries but of course they will spin it as persecution. I was in for 8 years too many myself.
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If I Became a JW, Could I Have My Cat on Paradise Earth?
by Cold Steel inwould i?
i wouldn't mind if he slept through eternity (he sleeps most of the time anyway).
i'd just like to be able to move him around occasionally.
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Beautiful animal ! Tabby's are great. As a Bible believer I've adopted the wait and see attitude, it's not a deal breaker for me haha !! I dream of old mills with cut stone and timber frames, bunch of cats sleeping around in the yard. Wait and see until then live life trust in the Christ.
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'Anointeds' Do you know any and if so what are they like ?
by Introvert 2 inwould like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .
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Been a year since I posted this, am now DA'ed and have read numerous 'apostate' books and love being in the VAA ! Made numerous FB friends and am now halfway through Poul B's book 'Judgment Day Must Wait' Those managers in Brooklyn have used the bait and switch all along starting mostly in the Rutherford era. AS for the so called 'anointed' there are all kinds, some are company men and some seem honest hearted and are trying to do what seems right and proper to them. Live and let live I'm very ok with that.
As for Brother Jeramy he is totally MIA and last I heard is either DA'ed or DF'ed and was going to a Greek Orthodox Church. His web sites / blog were sold to a fellow G.O. church member of his and I have not been able to contact him despite a handful of attempts.
Time heals all.
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Jehovah's Witnesses: the Brotherhood of Delusion
by TerryWalstrom ini am a curious person.
i am challenged by the unknown.
i can be driven, out of sheer frustration, to penetrate a closed veil of conspiracy.
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Stellar post Terry thank-you so much, sharing generously !
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Craziest meeting in last 10 years let's compare
by Chook inhi guys ,i'm new here 27 in 1 year out.. ive escaped 2 judicially by changing congs in rapid escape .i will tell my last dodged bullet.i swear these word as gospel honest.6 years ago in oz i'm in cong only about a year and tensions were running high due to a crazy old european bro ex elder who took no shit from the 10 apostles.i like him i don't know if it was the rebel in me or underdog syndrome but good guy 74years old he was.we just had this big sense the razor were getting sharpened.we arrive at thursday's night meeting my wife was at home so another big boring night i thought,was i wrong.the body has every mongrel breed.the three main characters were the italian dutch german,service committee.we start with song prayer ,the dutchy get up and says we are making adjustments to meeting tonight the arrogant bastard says only bible reading tonight then there agender.dutchy says.what is most amazing is these 10 idiots agreed to this changing of meeting program.
(these words are true)"we have a korah influence in cong and the 10 apostles have established an open judicial committee,the elders said there was evil in our mist .so to root out the evil if anyone has heard a bro say anything against any elders recently the are to report to the three stooges.well dutchy dims light and play the old prehistoric korah movie to the cong ,the bloody creation movie by russell was higher quality.
30 mins later german takes to the stage for the circus to begin.he repeats the dutch mantra ,well the publishers were looking at each other like it was north korea ,could have heard a pin drop,we are all thinking to ourselves we are all guilty of bitchin about the bastards .before meeting had finished halfway thru movie i rang my mate to tell him about "the burning "as the meeting became affectionately known.get home tell wife she don't believe me,within 2 days she believed.it was the talk of area.i had never rang bethel previously because i believed it was heaven and it didn't need my voice.next morning ring service desk in sydney and all i said i was concerned what took place at meeting last night .
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Haha, loved it ! Reminds me of the cleanliness talk we had once elder talked about kids in the org wearing 'Violent Femmes' T-Shirts and the like. Gave an illustration of people going to bathroom not washing hands and then that the average person would urinate enough in their lifetime to fill an average sized swimming pool, something like that. I was sitting in front and grinning the whole time, I though it was a good redneck talk ! :-)
Your post is entirely believable Chook !
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I've had enough..
by raven inso last night, after thinking "wow those pesky elders have finally left me alone, maybe since i skipped out on their jc invitation back on august 1st they've given up" wrong.. i go to check the mail and there's an envelope at my front door- lo and behold, another letter from from these elders.. why won't they leave me alone already?
i'll attach a picture of the letter.. again, same letter as the first one inviting me to a judicial committee on august 15th - and signed by all three elders.. should i just continue to ignore?
quite frankly i don't give a rats arse i've been enjoying life free from the mind control of the organization, and i just wish they would drop it and let me live life.. like i mentioned before, i am moving to a new home next week, the only reason these elders have my current address ( which happens to be over 100 miles away from the cong ) is because my mother gave it to them, after i gave it to her in confidence to forward me my mail.. so lets just say she won't be getting my new address... i don't have any contact with ones from this congregation (i'm an ex pioneer, so i'm sure if they've gotten word on what i'm doing, i must be satan himself!
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Was mentioned before, appointed grown men playing house with imagined power over individuals threatening action with their flamboyant signatures kind of insulting. I'd be temped to go in, produce said letter, not even give them the courtesy of sitting down and tell them how insulting their letter is then proceed to make huge flamboyant signatures of my own. End the 'meeting' on a brief note by ripping up letter in their face and throwing it up in the air letting the confetti fall randomly on the carpet. Offer them a goodwill handshake, wish them well, turn around showing them back of my neck and walk out on a brisk pace.hehe